#6. Checking floor levels has revealed a 50mm lower floor level that will need to be brought up to the new level. . If the client is going to have a tiled floor then I would go with the screeded option or at the very least replace the chipboard with T&G 22mm. Chipboard floors have never thrown me - out with circular, or the good old floor board saw! I have also done the RR trick - one screw back in through the pilot drills hole. Buy 22 mm Hole Saws at Screwfix. . the thinner boards from a shed would possibly double the instilation time. then cut strips off the T/G P5 22mm @ 45deg, glued/clamped/screwed into place. However, the lowest costs we found locally were: £10. Whats the best method of laying a chipboard floor? i was going to screw the first one down then glue and screw the next one and so on. I've now decided to install quartz tiles. Beam and thermal block flooring has a fairly reasonable insulation value to begin with, so you shouldn’t need to add as much as 100mm of PIR insulation on top. 96 for 100. They squeak a lot. If you really don't want joists, then you should use 22mm chipboard with T&G all round, and then each and every T&G joint glued really. Will be using Stixall. 5 or 5mm X 45mm would be my choice in this instance (would. Chipboard Tongue & groove Floorboard (L)2. co. Our Moisture Resistant MDF is available in a variety of thicknesses (6mm, 9mm, 12mm, 15mm, 18mm, 22mm, 25mm) and multiple sizes. Caberfloor Moisture Resistant Chipboard is an internal high-density floor panel, used extensively in new house builds and refurbishment projects. 99 Inc Vat. Wickes P5 Tongue and Groove Chipboard Flooring - 18 x 600 x 2400mm. I did it on one bathroom floor. read carfully I wrote that chipboard isn't suitable for nailing to, It's too brittle and nails work loose over time. 5 times thickness of sub floor i. just pumps Screwfix Select. vespat5, Jun 5, 2004 #1. Home Forums > Screwfix Community Forum > Carpenters' Talk > t+g chipboard flooring joint 'profile'cutter? Discussion in 'Carpenters' Talk' started by dartl price, Apr 3, 2018. The current ones are going on 18mm ply,. PowerChange Plus Arbor. I’ve been to a lot of builders merchants and they all say caberfloor on them . Our carpenter has suggested that it may make sense to do this throughout the property. VAT) Quick view. 60 per sheet at my local building supplier), and it's much better than plywood. coefficient of thermal expansion of plywood is in the order of 0. Anything we need to consider or is it just as easy as cutting to size. You then know for sure that the boards won't smell and the floor will be flat. 8"x2". rogerk101 Screwfix Select. The fitting instructions aren't clear, but say to remove "suspended" flooring & replace with 18mm marine ply, before bedding the tray on sand & cement. Hello guys. They should not cause splitting of the boards below even when close to an edge or end and the heads should self countersink. Bi-metal holesaws will wear out -. PLEASE CALL 0161 425 3030 for a Quote. There are two ways of doing this. Features a tongue and groove design for swift and easy. Do a quality job with quality products. FWIW, I'll be laying 22mm moisture resistant tongue and groove chipboard flooring onto my battens. I've been buying water resistant 22mm T&G-all-round chipboard flooring boards (600 x 2400) from Buildbase for £8. #2. 4. I’m considering 2 options: 1. Chipboard: Pack quantity: 1: Product length: 2400mm: Product thickness: 22mm: Product weight: 18. £ 7. Also re fitting new skirting board. Steel Jaws. There is 1 row of strutting at the center of the span. c, Nov 10, 2005. Thread Chipboard flooring and Joist centres. Use Kronofloor P5 18mm for domestic applications with a maximum joist/batten spacing up to 450mm centres or. Whatever you do, mark where pipes run and if there are cables through notches - always. 5mm screws are too skinny, 4. I think I have about 300mm to play with. £13. Order online or check stock in store. Bear in mind that 15mm plasterboard is bleedin' heavy!! 22mm x 2400mm x 600mm Egger Protect Grey Tongue and Grooved Chipboard Flooring TG4 EGGER Protect is manufactured from an EGGER P5 flooring grade particleboard with a unique, weather resistant surface layer applied to both the top and underside of the board. The heavy-duty. Astravan man , Sinewave is correct. Shim the battens for level and screw them firmly into the solid floor. Under Maintenance. The joists are 8" x 2", 450mm apart and span about 3m. Click & Collect. Why not use the traditional solution - floorboards. Upstairs flooring in house built in 2005 is noisy and creaky to the extent that it’s hard to ignore. Get an evolution saw and you can even cut right through the nails if any are in the way. hallbeck, Jan 23,. 5 x 25mm or possibly the 4 x 25mm from Screwfix. However i do not accept any. . 5 or 3 times the thickness of the chipboard for length. If you do happen to replace the flooring then I'd recommend using 22mm board and to prevent creaks use D4 Adhesive too. I am trying to find all the layers above the concrete floor. It's called karma. The tongue and groove sides allow the loft panels to slot into one another for a secure fit and easy installation. Converting my garage and need the new floor in the garage to match inside the house. For example, room is 4m long exactly (4000mm). Helps if you take a sample !!,I am going to be fitting a Mira 1400 x 800 x 40mm stone resin shower tray. Because we are moving/replacing boiler and radiators we need to lift 1 room and part of the other 2 rooms so I may as well just replace the entire floor. 1000s of DIY supplies. end up using sander, easy job . Is PIR the best insulation for a 25mm gap between concrete and chipboard floor? Discussion in 'Builders' Talk' started by ME69, Jul 11, 2023. I recently used 12mm backer for a floor - joists were are less than 300mm centres (nearer 250) and in between was the solid insulation for wet-underfloor heating so well supported. mdf is not designed to support loads and if you were to use standard mdf if you had any kind of leak or spill it would puff up. Usually only the longest sides have tongue joints and you can carefully cut that tongue using a hand saw or a circular saw or a multitool. I am looking to meet the new extension floor and existing floors by laying 22mm T&G chipboard onto the concrete. My first floor is 22mm water resistant T&G chipboard which is glued and nailed with 50mm ring shank nails at 100mm spacing into the metal web joists. These Chipboard Floorboards come in two sheets sizes, 18mm X 2400mm X 600mm Chipboard Flooring and 22mm X 2400mm X 600mm. Quantity. It would be difficult to lift the boards to drill and plug the concrete floor. Use 22mm thickness floorboards, not 18mm, oversized spacing won't matter then provided its storage purposes. 1. I'd fix at 150 centres as you would do with standard chipboard flooring. 20mm chipboard plus carpet plus underlay will create a bit of a step between the doorway. 0 X 60mm screws but have just discovered a Spax floorboard screw. The last board will be 600mm x 0. The most common size for chipboard flooring is 600mm x 2400mm and a thickness of between 18-22mm. 82 per sheet (Inc. co. FREE next day delivery available, free collection in 1 minute. All our standard chipboard is from well-managed forests. Was on a job today where 22mm Chipboard has been laid over 230mm joists spaced roughly at 400mm centres. Richard_ Screwfix Select OSB is structurally stronger than chipboard, but there is a reason that chipboard is designed and used for flooring. 7 (46) £2699. 03-0. I ended up choosing to go with 18mm Marine Plywood over joists for the shower section. I am having a problem fitting 2 lengths of 18mm chipboard. Click & Collect. VAT. 18+, T&C apply, Credit subject to status. I watched a video on the caberfix glue on caberfix flooring and it looked exactly the same as my flooring I. Use spax 60mm chipboard screws, 3 per joist per board. Delivery & Returns. all joints glued. Bobby86 New Member Im nearing the end now of my. . I can see where some have been replaced historically, they just used what looks like pine. #4. I used 22mm green T&G chipboard, glued on the tongue and in the groove and glued the joists using D4. Lay 9mm sp101 ply, then 10mm or. The resulting powder combines with more resin and is molded, pressed, and dried. I guess I will have to nog the area as well, particularly the edge of the plywood against the wall. Screwfix customers rate this product 4. £15. 99 inc. £41. 2. Hammer in or remove protruding nail & it’s a good job done. You want p5 tongue and groove . Wickes Chipboard Loft Panels - 320 x 1220mm - Pack of 3 added to "My Project List". I have used 22mm T&G chipboard flooring in all the bathrooms I've worked on, and never had a problem yet. Flooring Chipboard. SmugDictator Member. I believe they recommend 6 for floors and 12 for walls. Fit and screw down, then when you need access, unscrew the boards and lift out. I tend to get about 3 boards per tube of adhesive and use 15 No More Ply screws per board spaced about every 300mm. Secure Your Home. They squeak a lot. Ideal for kitchens, bathrooms and. New kitchen coming in 6 weeks, can't be delayed, wife insists on tiled floor. Smooth sanded surface. The floor level would ideally come up a bit too. £20. No Cooling Required. Our products and applications specialist, Derek Spears, demonstrates the correct installation method of our new CaberShieldPlus chipboard flooring with out C. If it were me, I'd lift the board that's been cut and bouncing and put some noggins under the position of the cut to make sure it's supported. The chipboard may rot? Though it’s effectively double bagged. Paslode Nails are classified according to Eurocode 5 Service Class 1, 2 and 3 providing a suitable nail for every application. the existing floor alongside the nearest joist, against the side that's away from the wall. It was nailed down and I added 40mm screws when I moved in (all I had under lockdown). Cuts Softwood, Chipboard, Brick, Soft Tiles, Fibre Plastics, GFK & CFK. A few have stocks which they sell individually but they are too far away from me to deliver (Gloucester area). 8×2 (2400x600mm) 22mm in thickness; FSC. SKU: FH22C4TA. Tongue and groove design for easy installation. Zinc and blue-passivated and case-hardened. When you laid the chipboard it probably wasnt siting down flush for whatever reason all I can suggest, rather than taking the whole thing up is to just cut out the bad section, with a plunge saw or skill and a guide and plonk a new bit in, sort of a floating floor within a floating floor, how much does it move by the wayWhilst doing this, walk around & make the floor creak, the movement will pull the glue in, then apply more & repeat. VAT. Screwfix customers rate this product 4. Hello guys. I need 5 sheets of 18mm and 5 sheets of 22mm. Pollowick Screwfix Select. conjunction with fitting EGGER Flooring grade chipboard (see Fitting Notes on page 3 ). Find your nearest Screwfix store and up to date opening times. you then have to put noggins (pieces of 3 0r 4x2)under the cuts and half the thickness sticking out to support new piece as well. The other half run parallel to the joists so add almost nothing to the stiffness. As well screwing the boards to the joists and gluing the tongues with PVA I ve heard an idea, as an extra measure, of running a. £41. The floor is limited head height, so overboarding isn't a preferred option. 04 mm/m/deg C which equates to 3-4mm across a 5m room with a temperature range of 20 degrees - easy to achieve between winter and summer with the sun on the floor! - MDF is more stable @ around 0. Buy great products from our MDF Sheets Category online at Wickes. The house was built in around the 1930s. DannyDoLittle, May 15, 2020. Einhell kwb A4 Extra Fine P120 Sanding Mesh. Thickness: 22mm. CGN Screwfix Select. What are your thoughts regarding screws for 22mm P6 chipboard flooring. if you mean 5"x1" softwood t&g,i usually use 60mm losthead nails (sorry for mixing imp&met)or if useing nail gun i think there is a 64mm ring shank . VAT. height difference is 75mm and building control said they’re happy with 50mm insulation. Product Code: 22MCHIPFS. Using 8'x2' flooring chipboard you will cover 3. Existing floor is 22mm chipboard. pooh New Member. 99 Inc Vat. Worx 710 compact circular saw. Get the slightly more expensive chipboard intended for wet environments. £0. Measure the length of the room to determine how many rows there will be. jimwillsher Member. #10. Use a nail punch and knock the nails right through and draw a pencil line along the holes that are left. Cutting Width (Kerf): 1. GUSTAV0, Feb 9, 2021. In the unlikely event that you should need them, our Customer Service Team is available from Monday to Friday 8am to 6pm, 9am - 3pm on Saturday, and 8am - 1pm on Bank Holidays. Here is the kit I use:Bosch Professional Combi Drill and Impact Driver with Two 18V 4. #5. A. Wickes Plywood is ideal for exterior joinery. Add to trolley. Deleted member 11267, Nov 11, 2016 #12. 75mm Jaw Depth. They also are countersunk in the spring with reduced expansion effect. Egger D4 Chipboard Flooring Adhesive 1kg. To avoid the possibility of noisy floors ensure that joints are glued with a waterproof D3 adhesive. #19. Floor-Tite PZ Double-Countersunk Thread-Cutting Floorboard Screws 4. New Lickpro Paints. 4. I did think of buying a piece of hardboard and fixing it to the new floorboards but will this look stupid. 10 screws, but Screwfix only seem to supply up to no. Log in or Sign up. High density tongue and grooved particle board. Chipboard is one of the most cost-effective building materials around. Im thinking: DPM Levelling compound (flexible one) 2-3mm 50mm insulation board Chip board (approx) 22mm does this sound right?ex. e. Suitable for Handheld Saws. Chipboard is usually 18 or 22mm for Flooring 3mm Hardboard sometimes used to create a flat surface and to seal the Floor to prevent draughts/dirt coming up. I am getting a lot of creaking from the floor and I don't believe the issue is down to the flooring which is 22mm chipboard T&G which is screwed and glued in the grooves. I would either overboard it with (providing its solid with minimum movement) 6 to 12mm wbp ply or i would rip it up compleatly and put 25mm wbp ply straight over the joists. #7. uk. Jord86 Screwfix Select. Show prices excluding VAT INC VAT EX VAT. Caber TG4 P5 V313 2400mm x 600mm x 22mm Chipboard Flooring Sign in or Select a branch to see available stock and prices. Would it be better to drill through the hanger and screw down through the brickwork and secure them? I have some 6 inch concrete screws or some 6 inch rawlplug bolts that. 1. . The current flooring is 18mm chipboard t&g sheets which are screwed but not glued down. . The Chipboard Flooring Boards for use to overlay existing flooring or as a loft board for storage. Multi-Head Countersinks Screw. VAT £ 12. High-quality moisture resistant flooring with a P5 grading; Tongue and groove design for quick and easy installation and added strength; 22mm. I'm installing some chipboard flooring however my joist centres are 370mm (not 400mm) so I'm having to do a lot more cuts. ) I've tiled directly onto 22mm waterproof chipboard in 5 bathrooms and 1 kitchen and all are still good many years on. Caberfloor P5 Moisture Resistant Chipboard Flooring FSC TG4 2400 x 600 x 22mm. jamesjoe90 New Member. Use Kronofloor P5 18mm for domestic floating floors and Kronofloor P5 22mm for non-domestic floating floors or for floors requiring restricted deflection. Caberdek is based upon Caberfloor P5 which complies with BS EN312: part 5. Features. Jord86, Mar 12, 2017 #3. View All. Making jobs easier, reducing critical time on home improvements or housing developments. It has a good, level concrete floor base. P5 is water resistant . 6mm. Cut along the nail line with a circular saw set at the same depth as the chipfloor. Mr. 4m (W)600mm (T)22mm Trade Building Supplies. Once the glue is dried just drop the small piece back in and fix with. I've used it today to cut a section out of my 22mm chipboard flooring and it really struggled. Moisture resistant. Click & Collect. I've got a floor to redo that's on 18mm chipboard at the minute, I'm thinking of changing to 22mm but I've been looking around. MDF-Tite PZ Double-Countersunk Thread-Cutting MDF Screws 3. If I'm tiling over the chipboard I space them every. 2mm x 55mm 200 Pack (49231) Floor-Tite PZ Double-Countersunk Thread-Cutting Floorboard Screws 4. Just use a circular saw, set the depth to 20mm and cut a small section out between the joists. Flooring layers from the bottom floor boards to the gyproc (plastic sheet and top boards removed. Screwfix Community Forum. Not sure whether to just use normal pva wood glue or D4 (seen this is for chipboard), Or is there something else people recommend? 3. is he a real joiner ?after 2 weeks in the elements go and have a look at the joints and the cut edges and see how much they swell up. Cut along the nail line with a circular saw set at the same depth as the chipfloor. (8) £17. Show More. You need 2400mm x 600mm x 22mm P5 sheets of chipboard flooring glued with PU glue at joints and a 10mm expansion gap around the perimeter with a foam perimeter tape (put a Dpm under celotex) Jimmycloutnail , Feb 11, 2020 Ta. Get it Tuesday, Jan 31. chipboard floor. 22mm T&G flooring chipboard is typically utilised in flooring applications. Optimaxx TX Countersunk Flooring Screws 4mm x 50mm 500 Pack (226TY) (2) compare. 66. I just need to sand a mm or two from one line where 2 bucket loads met and I didn’t quite smooth it well enough, and then it’ll be level within 5mm over 2m all over. com. 9506134213275. vespat5 New Member. 100mm is ok for the last strip - it's the T&G joint the gives it the strength - brick bond is fine To reduce squeaking - use Gorilla Glue (screwfix will have it) along all the T&G joints - it's like expanding builders foam - dampen the joints before application as well & it seals up a treat (thumbs)SKU: SP7000CS-1KG-1 STICK2. Today I’ve taken up the carpet to have a closer look. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. PAGE 1 OF 28. Now the house is built the chipboard is. 25mm seems safe. Stores are open 7 days a week. Three boards down, board clamps on each (or alternate) joist to push. com. The 2-3mm gap from the saw should be enough to get a chisel in and lever them up. geo-d New Member. i. Chipboard flooring panel with an attached acoustic layer on the underside to reduce both impact and airborne transmitted sounds. I was thinking of using floor-tite screws following quite a few recommendations and reviews from Screwfix/Ebay/Amazon and Youtube (Ultimate Handyman video 22mm x 2400mm x 600mm Egger Protect Grey Tongue and Grooved Chipboard Flooring TG4 EGGER Protect is manufactured from an EGGER P5 flooring grade particleboard with a unique, weather resistant surface layer applied to both the top and underside of the board. Daveukleics, Jan 30, 2021. Screwfix Community Forum. 09 for 18mm chipboard, and £981. Diver Fred. 95 Inc Vat. It's an insurance job, so I have only been given the option of T&G or chipboard. the joint must always be over a joist or nogged. 22mm waterproof chipboard costs £8 per sheet of 2400mm x 600mm, which works out at £144. I'm just in the process of buying 140 sheets of 8'x2' 22mm Chipboard flooring. We had 18mm 2. ) I've tiled directly onto 22mm waterproof chipboard in 5 bathrooms and 1 kitchen and all are still good many years on. Relaid with 22mm T&G, glued the joists, the tongue and the groove and used lots of spax chipboard screws and it’s amazing how solid it feels now. December 2016. My joists are at 400 so going for 20mm anyway and will put in some noggins over the common walkways. rogerk101, Jan 25, 2023. Inc. The property had woodworm, so this was treated and a number of the rotten boards were removed. 39Inc Vat. 5mm x 60mm 300 Pack at Screwfix. and a £7 difference!Hence any remedial work will have to be done by removing the existing floor boards. It's cheap (£8. It can equally be used internally, and is suitable for painting. Then scree and glue the T&G chipboard flooring into the battens. Buy Power Saws at Screwfix. Jablite comes in different thicknesses and chipboard in 18 or 22mm so you should be able to get the required lift. OSB. £10. Another one said it's a bad idea and 22mm chipboard should be used instead. Andrew Morris likes this. Structural board for creating a new floor over existing flooring or over joists; Specifications. View product details. 42 per m. Screwfix Community Forum. 66. Hi,. Then pipes / cables lying on top. We’ve cut holes into the chipboard floor and found the insulation is rock wool about 2” thick that lies just above the garage boarding. Regards, AlexThe whole building frame is sat on a single course of bricks on a 100mm concrete slab so theres no floor joist system. The kitchen floor is a floating chipboard subfloor and the. Clearance. Its a 1995 build and all the downstairs floor is 25mm polystyrene with chipboard floating on it. 4. I was toying with the idea of running a 2x2 along the end of the 5 joists, screwing into the ends and letting the weight of the new 22mm chipboard floor hold them down. Cheers. I put some battens down around the edges and door openings. CaberFix Tape 50m x 45mm Grey. £ 1,068. £18. Inc. To provide the proper subfloor/level surface for gluing it down, is it better to: Take up the floorboards entirely and replace with 18mm ply? Lay 6mm ply on top of the floorboards?TurboCoach Hex Flange Self-Drilling Coach Screws M10 x 100mm 50 Pack (89717) (115) compare. £18. Inc. . Unfortunately chipboard is a very poor flooring media , but its. The P4 flooring panel from Caberdek combines the Caberfloor P5 particleboard panel with a tough, waterproof and slip-resistant film providing excellent protection from the elements. Screws. £18. cant belive a joiner would lay normal 22mm t&g chipboard flooring and allow it to be exposed to the elements. 5 2. 5 Boards 1. If you are using sheet flooring the space screws at 4 to 6 inch spacing into every joist. It stops floorboard creaking due to a very firm fixation with the Heco-Unix full-thread screw. £15. New Online Ranges. Plywood 1000%. We can also cut any piece of MDF to your required size or pack together as many sheets as you need for your project. We have recently erected an extension and knocked through from the existing house. Screwfix Community Forum. Lay a new sheet of chipboard on a suitable bench or support and use the measurements to mark the face of the board on either edge. (With good support provided by the joists plus rigid insulation, 18mm chipboard would probably be fine, and it's even cheaper. Delivery. I would select REISSER Cutter screws. You'll need to juggle the costs - which is cheaper, 400 centres with 18mm chip and 12mm board but more joists or fewer joists and 22mm/15mm as above. 99 Inc Vat. Worked on a house a while back where the builder laid the green moisture resistant 22mm Chipboard floor sheets (2100 x 500 I think) as a working platform when the build was only at 1st floor level. Tongue and groove design for easy installation. 3. 4. AcidOverride-. actually sell chipboard flooring bonded to there insulation. Smooth sanded surface. No pilot hole required. quantity. Vin, May 16, 2020. Suitable for glued or nailed wood flooring. 22mm P5 Moisture Resistant Tongue & Groove Chipboard Flooring 2400mm x 600mm (8' x 2') Pack of 82. Show More. It is also highly advisable that your chipboard. my question is, do the batons get screwed down, is there insulation to be placed between them,and should there be barrier between baton and. Chipboard flooring has T&G-type edges which makes it very solid at its joints - use adhesive such as polyurethane along all joints (expands slightly as it. 12.